So today i was cruising HipHopHeads subreddit (no relation to us) and saw a post about the movie The Whackness. In the title the OP said the film had a great “old school” soundtrack which is when I chimed in with “1994 isnt old school”. This lead to me being blasted with down votes by youngsters with no pubes and caused more comments than the OG post itself (at the time). One poster by the name of “Niggawithswag” claimed that Illmatic, Biggie and The Beastie Boys are all old school and that I was a hipster. I dont know why he called me a hipster or exactly why he used these as examples but somehow they all got grouped together. Beastie Boys debut dropped years before Illmatic and Ready to Die. Still in my opinion he was wrong none of these groups were old school.
I think people think if my dad came inside my mom before this came out it must be old school or classic… like these words are interchangeable, they’re not. Just because something is old doesn’t mean its classic and if something is classic doesn’t make it old, although “classic” can be rather opinionated term as I think somethings are classic that others may shake their head at..
I then said old school isn’t determined by age but determined by sound which lead to even more down votes. Can you really throw Kool Herc or Sugarhill Gang in the same boat as lets say Run DMC and LL Cool J or Nas and 2Pac? If you nodded your head yes then you need to revisit the albums by these artists. Run DMC sounds nothing like Kool Herc or Nas, its somewhere in the middle. I broke down in that same reddit post on my opinion of sound. I said that pre 85 hiphop sounded one way, kinda fluffy, beats were discoesque, rhymes were conscious (mostly). 1986 to 92 I thought hiphop went thru a transition. In the crack era came the blossoming of def jam and a ton of indie labels, those beats that were made to get the party going were now becoming gritty and the raps became more hardcore and the conscious rap was on another level with groups like Public Enemy. 93 and beyond IMO is the modern sound of hip-hop and basically the sound most rap heads fuck with.
Another poster in that reddit thread named “Unnecessary_Sarcasm” seemed to have my back or atleast backed up what I was preaching to the kids, and came with these responses, oh btw “NiggaWithSwag” basically got owned by a few people after his response to me which lead to him deleting all his comments in said thread. So anyways here’s dudes back up
Technically the end of old school was the release of Run-DMC’s first album because of the change it signified in the genre.
Education is fun!
Seems like my timeline might be on point? Here’s another response to thread,
Heh, you’re so angry 🙂
And it only takes a cursory knowledge of Hip-Hop history to see that the style LL Cool J, Beastie Boys, and Run-DMC pioneered was vastly different from the actual and traditional “Old School” styles of DJ Kool Herc, Afrikaa Bambaataa, Sugarhill Gang, and Grandmaster Flash.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_school_hip_hop
And before you bitch about it being wikipedia, it’s an incredibly well-sourced article. I’d follow the sources if you want to keep denying a well-documented fact.
That’s why it’s typically referred to as “Golden Age” Hip-Hop. Also, Beastie Boys’ debut was also important in ushering in the new school, they began a generation before Nas and Biggie.
No, that was the “New School Of Hip-Hop” ushered in by Run-DMC, Beastie Boys, and LL Cool J. That’s why the late-80’s to early 90’s are referred to as “New School” or “Golden Age”
Reading Comprehension isn’t that hard, man.
Old School
New School
Blatantly obvious and you don’t even have to learn to read.
So I think we agreed on this but the youngsters who refer to me as gramps in the thread just don’t get it, the term old school in hiphop isn’t about age, once an album or an artist has been around for a long time doesn’t make them old school. What do you guys think? Am I going senile? Probably. Go back and listen to the music, and come back to me but shit at these standards the Slim Shady LP is old school.